Cyclops

[untouchable]

Why did only 4 of my 6 cyclops fight?

2002-05-12 16:48:57
your fleet 3 fights against fleet 1 from Secret of space-time inversion at 473/486/69

yours: 26 ships
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
18 cruisers (100/100)
6 cyclops (0/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemy: 870 ships
class 1:
869 fighters (1/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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your class 2 vs enemy class 1:


1 destroyer vs 1 fighter






10 fighters vs 1 destroyer




Losses:
You :
1 destroyer
Enemy :
1 fighter

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your class 3 vs enemy class 4:


10 cruisers vs 1 mothership
4 revenge cruisers destroyes 400 ships










Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
1 mothership

[peace of love]

well that logical illogical

your class3 stops to fight when there are no more enemies left in THEIR class(which happened when the mothership blasted into pieces ...

it sounds illogical as it isnt understandable why the cycplops shouldnt fire on anyway... but the spacebattle is quite confusing of course so there are battlecommanders for every class (those guys out of good families but with no brain are mostly taken for this job due to political necessarities). the battle commander of class3 ends the battle when his task(destroying all ships in his class) is done .. as battlecommander of clases are no battlecommanders of the fleet they are not very bright but quite arrogant and so they dont see the point in waiting for some sophisticated ships( whiches function they are not capable to understand) to do their duty...
captains of missle launcher e.g. have the same problem....
so the other two cyclopses were taken by the "we are ready"-command of the battlecommander of class and are not allowed to shoot....

(actually the real cause of course is a strategical ship.... you must plan a class so large that it will win the class battle but so small that all sophisticated ships (or most of them) can fire....- otherwise some ships are too easy to play and the battle isnt balanced))

--> but i ask myself why you hadnt destroyed at least 400 fighters with the 4 cyclopses...
if u copied the battlereport right(???) there should be a PROGRAMM BUG and fighters should have been destroyed by the 4 cyclopses....

ADMIN:
BTW.: THE CYCPLOPS IS STILL CALLED A REVENGE CRUISER IN THE BATTLEREPORT

I hoped i could help u and everybody with this ???

peace of oz


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guruu... ruuu ... guuruuu

[untouchable]

Well, thank you for this long explanation... Quite funny those commanders
But like peace I can't understand why the cyclopses are called revenge cruisers in the brs.

[revenge]

here is my version

yours: 870 ships
class 1:
869 fighters (1/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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enemys: 26 ships
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
18 cruisers (100/100)
6 cyclops (0/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

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your class 1 vs enemy class 2:


10 fighters vs 1 destroyer






1 destroyer vs 1 fighter




Losses:
Enemy :
1 destroyer
You :
1 fighter

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your class 4 vs enemy class 3:








10 cruisers vs 1 mothership
4 revenge cruisers destroyes 400 ships




Losses:
Enemy :
-
You :
1 mothership

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Summary:
enemy losses:
class 2:
1 destroyer

your losses:
class 1:
401 fighters
class 4:
1 mothership

score: -713


.............

i lost the points really
so the loss-calculation for you was wrong??
did you gain the points???



[ This Message was edited by: revenge on 2002-05-12 21:46 ]

[untouchable]

Loss-calculation???

[spacetrace]

this is the original battle report out of the data base , all seems normal:


your fleet 3 fights against fleet 1 from Secret of space-time inversion at 473/486/69

yours: 26 ships
class 2:
1 destroyer (10/10)
class 3:
18 cruisers (100/100)
6 cyclops (0/100)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
enemy: 870 ships
class 1:
869 fighters (1/1)
class 4:
1 mothership (0/1000)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
your class 2 vs enemy class 1:


1 destroyer vs 1 fighter






10 fighters vs 1 destroyer




Losses:
You :
1 destroyer
Enemy :
1 fighter

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
your class 3 vs enemy class 4:


10 cruisers vs 1 mothership
4 revenge cruisers destroyes 400 ships










Losses:
You :
-
Enemy :
1 mothership

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary:
your losses:
class 2:
1 destroyer

enemy losses:
class 1:
401 fighters
class 4:
1 mothership

score: 713


[ This Message was edited by: spacetrace on 2002-05-12 21:58 ]

[untouchable]

No Problem... Peace explained it to me...

[Frederik]

Peace :
The revenge-cruiser (cyclops) is not a retro-fighter, but an (ordinary) class3-ship.
So because Untouchable also had a class2 fleet, his class3 didn't engaged the enemies class1.

[peace of love]

hmm, i think actually it is a retro-ship...

--> see the battle report "spacetrace" sended...

[untouchable]

What is the meaning of "retro"?

[peace of love]

its like a missle launcher but vice versa...

it shoots from one class to another...
but as it shoots from a higher class to a lower class it shoots retro (backwards)...
(thats why it was planned as a revenge cruiser... it shoots enemie class1 one ships but in class3 AFTER the class1 battle...)

[untouchable]

Ah I see! So what's the problem?
It is not a "retro-ship". It was activated against the mothership but when this was destroyed two cyclops which didn't shoot till now couldn't take their turn....

[Bilerator]

nono ... the cyclops didn't fight against the mothership i think.. but why didn't the 2 left cyclops didn't attack the fighters ??

[untouchable]

Lol of course they didn't fight against the mothership but they were activated against class 4.

[Bilerator]

hmm, i think they can't .. in the description it is said that they only attack class 1 ships ...

[Lord Philemon]

You have to imagine, that the commanders of the cyclopes don't know what sort of ship they're in. They only know that it's a class 3 ship and how to activate it (maybe by pressing a button). Now they see the ms and want to shoot at it. They press the button and what happens? 100 class one are destroyed. Now the cruisers take their turn and destroy the ms and the commanders of the other cyclopes don't shoot anymore, because they feel as if they're in a cruiser...

[untouchable]

Please read what peace wrote...
Easy description...

[Hobbit]

Lord Philemon was jus' kiddin', I think

Don't worry, be happy!

bye

Hobbit

[Bilerator]

hmmm .... bad KI i think ^^